Webhook heavily delayed

josef.krinzinger

Hi!

currently playing around with Home Assistant and successfully registered the Webhook. 
But the webhook events are received around 3 minutes after the doorbell was triggered, which is absolutely unacceptable for a doorbell. 

I tested my webhook url from external manually and the average response time was 300ms for the call.
So i'm pretty sure the issues is not on my side. 

Anything i can do to debug this? Is this a known/accepted issue of the API?  
 

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  • Comment author
    stefan

    Hi, same issue here. I even had to wait more than 5 minutes yesterday. The problem exists since about two month. Before the notifications came within a few seconds. Now i have to wait at least 1 minute

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  • Comment author
    joost.samsom

    Same issue here. Annoying!

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  • Comment author
    jeanvictor.bourbon

    Same here. Was thinking was coming from my infra. Glad to see I’m not an isolated case

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  • Comment author
    netatmo-presence
    • Edited

    Same here since 5th May in the morning.
    Often a delay between 1-2 minutes! … I also noticed that the JSON payload is incomplete for humans and vehicles, only for pets it is complete.

    I already informed Netatmo but for now without much useful replies.

    My 2 presence outdoor cameras are pretty useless if I can react on an event which is 1-2 minutes old 🤮

    In the worst-case scenario, the burglar will be gone by then.

    If they don’t fix it, I have to buy some new outdoor cameras, but from INSTAR for example. Those devices support local LAN access with MQTT, pretty much better than this stuff from Netatmo.

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  • Comment author
    gustavsen

    Same issue here. I have tried two different webhook setups, and they are both virtually useless with these delays.

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  • Comment author
    netatmo-presence

    well, Netatmo doesn't give a shit on it 🤮

    It's time to switch to something that works and kick those Netatmo devices out of my house.

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  • Comment author
    Leslie Community moderator

    Hello all,

    Sorry for the late answer, it took time for the teams to investigate and perform tests. We indeed noticed delays on the 3rd party webhooks component. Despite a huge scale-up of the service, the situation is not better

    There is a ongoing rework project for webhooks (including the ones sent from our native apps) to improve the stability. Unfortunately, I don't have more information about an availability date for this

    Have a good day,

    Leslie - Community Manager

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  • Comment author
    simon

    Same problem here. Hope you can fix this soon.


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  • Comment author
    xavier.fruchard

    Hello @Leslie, do you know more about a possible date when the service will be operational? This significantly alters the role of your cameras in certain infrastructures.

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  • Comment author
    leconte.fabrice

    Bonjour,

    Je suis dans le même cas, avec des délai pouvant aller à plusieurs minutes.

    Merci d'avance aux équipes Netatmo de progresser rapidement sur le sujet :)

     

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  • Comment author
    Leslie Community moderator

    Hello all,

    The rework project of webhooks began last week. Unfortunately, I don't have for now more information about the release date

    Have a good day,

    Leslie - Community Manager

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  • Comment author
    xavier.fruchard

    I hope you find a solution. Unfortunately, I had to double the monitoring with another brand in order to have better responsiveness.

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  • Comment author
    josef.krinzinger

    I hope they implement a LOCAL Webhook functionality so we don't have to rely on the netatmo api anymore. 

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  • Comment author
    rolf.guldener

    Every homeautomation has a lot of working solution like direct HTTP, MQTT,...

    Please implement the interface and a lot of problems are solved...

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  • Comment author
    xavier.fruchard

    Do you have any good news to share with us regarding the correction of the latency issue?

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  • Comment author
    drics91

    Good evening,
    I'm having the same problem. I'm experiencing latency of over 5 minutes, which renders my NETATMO Presence cameras useless. I hope you find a solution, otherwise I'll switch to cameras from another company. It's a shame to see the quality of your products deteriorate.

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  • Comment author
    netatmo-presence
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    Yes, pretty useless since months. Netatmo became a playground for children, I can‘t find other words.

    Well …

    Since almost half a year w/o a solution is kinda „dear customers, we shit on you at all“.

    If I were the boss of Netatmo, I would have released new firmware that also supports MQTT after a maximum of one week of such problems. That would have solved almost all of the issues and even added a pretty cool feature. But no, they've been fighting tooth and nail for years (anyone wonders why?)
    Instead, customers stuck with this stupid VPN tunnel to Netatmo. No wonder that this and the route to it are vulnerable, and that flooding everything with packets would cause everything to stop working.

    In any case, I can no longer take the company seriously, and certainly not its products at that price: expensive toys, nothing else.

    What have we learned? Never buy security products that rely on the internet and a company cloud, they are doomed to fail.

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  • Comment author
    simon
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    Hey Netatmo

    May I send you the bill for the now needed camera replacement? You destroyed the service I had bought with the camera. I will need an electrician to do the exchange.

    I'd expect this to cost 500 to 1000 Euro.

    Deal?

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  • Comment author
    simon

    Can anyone advise on replacements? Please with local api access directly to the device.

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  • Comment author
    tom.gemmell

    Hi Netatmo, any update on the webhook refactor?

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  • Comment author
    joost.samsom

    Any update to share Leslie?
    This issue is running quite long

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  • Comment author
    Stéphan

    @Netatmo,

    Any news about the rework of webhooks ? 

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  • Comment author
    joost.samsom
    • Edited

    Informing customers is easy but seems to be hard for Netatmo.

    Last update is made 3 months ago. I’m considering a replacement by UniFi

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  • Comment author
    Leslie Community moderator

    Hello,

    Hard on my side to get infos from the teams on that topic. The good news is that they really understood the problem for 3rd party users (a part of the project documentation is dedicated to fixing/testing this). But I still don't know when the rework will be effective in Production

    Have a good day,

    Leslie - Community Manager

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  • Comment author
    netatmo-presence

    Hahahahahahahahahaha 🤣😂😤🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

    This is just ridiculous, Netatmo is ridiculous.

    Everyone: buy a camera from INSTAR:
    - great support
    - MQTT connection
    - full LAN/WLAN access to the device

    And just forget about this ridiculous company called Netatmo.

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  • Comment author
    simon

    Thanks for the hint. Looks like after 8 months of waiting it is time to give up.

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  • Comment author
    Stéphan

    It’s really a shame, because Netatmo solutions offer a very good user experience through the application.

    While the services were initially delivered very well, I have been going from one disappointment to another over the past few months, with:

    • the end of support and the removal from sale of the Netatmo doorbell,

    • the webhook service, which now has disastrous response times, with a response delay of up to 2 minutes observed today, whereas it used to be almost instantaneous.

    Is there a real intention to continue evolving and improving the products, or is Netatmo simply going to withdraw the Netatmo Presence from sale as was done with the doorbell?

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  • Comment author
    drics91

    After five years with Netatmo cameras, I finally realised that they no longer suited my needs. I'm going to replace everything and switch to a competitor.
    I don't understand Netatmo's policy, but they'll have to continue without me.
    I've already bought two Reolink cameras, which are incredibly easy to set up and install, unlike the Presence cameras, which were a nightmare. They detect movement from all angles with incredible responsiveness and no false alarms, they integrate really well with Jeedom. I have absolutely no regrets about my choice;

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