About the new weather station...

vier.kuifjes

Nice to see that there's a new "weather station ORIGINAL 2nd generation".

What I wonder, and what is not mentioned, is if this all new station is compatible with the old indoor and rain gauge modules, or if I would have to replace the whole set if I want this new station...

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  • Comment author
    Giada Community manager
    • Official comment

    Hello,

    Thank you for your feedback and we're really glad to hear you're excited about the launch of our Weather Station Original!

    Yes, the accessories are compatible with all the versions of the Weather Station 😉

  • Comment author
    GEORGzer Community moderator

    As far as I can tell from the press release, only the main Weather Station with its Outdoor Module got redesigned. All accessories (Additional Module, Rain Gauge, Wind Gauge, Shield) stay the same.

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  • Comment author
    vier.kuifjes
    • Edited

    So... are there actually any new features present that are not available on the old weather station? I assume that the new station does not measure UV index and pollen by itself but this is third party information? 🤔

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  • Comment author
    jan

    If that's the case, and I think it is (how could it measure UV-index on the outdoor station without placing it in the sun, which is of course absolutely out of the question for measuring th outdoor temperature reliably), then there is actually nothing that would stop Netatmo from adding these new features to the old version. So these new features are probably added only in order to convince you to buy the new station instead of sticking with the old one. 
    You might wonder if anything has actually been 'redesigned' except for the color. Even the name 'ORIGINAL' suggests that this might not the case :-). 
    Maybe Netatmo could elaborate on whether the hardware has actually been improved, comparing to the old model.

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  • Comment author
    Vlinderke

    Today I installed the new weather station Netatmo original 2.
    It went smoothly, easily and simply.
    Base station with outdoor module, rain gauge, wind gauge and three separate indoor modules. Everything worked within 1 hour.

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  • Comment author
    Marco

    Technically, nothing has changed between the new version and the previous one, except for the paint color?!
    Can anyone with the new "original" version tell us if they already have UV and pollen indicators in the app?

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  • Comment author
    Vlinderke

    Yes, there is.
    It indicates the UV index in values ​​between 0 and 11+ (risk of sunburn) and it indicates daily for pollen allergy for grasses, trees and weeds

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  • Comment author
    Vlinderke

    If you touch the icons in the app, it will indicate whether you need to protect your skin from sunburn and/or take measures against pollen. Very handy if you are going out.

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  • Comment author
    Marco

    I find it particularly irritating that third-party data is artificially withheld from the previous hardware version!

    There's no technical reason not to make UV and pollen data available to the previous version!

    Or am I missing something?

    IOS 18.5 Netatmo Weather 3.12.0

    No UV and pollen in the web interface either

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  • Comment author
    Marco

    Okay, while playing around with the app, I did find a UV forecast, but not pollen yet.

    Unfortunately, I can't resize the screenshots here, so sorry about that.

    I think clearer communication about what the original weather station is would have led to fewer irritations and questions.

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  • Comment author
    GEORGzer Community moderator

    hasn‘t that UV forecast index always been there?

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  • Comment author
    Marco

    @GEORGzer  

    I'm not sure about that.

    For UV and pollen, I usually use a different provider (Wetteronline.de) for Germany.

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  • Comment author
    GEORGzer Community moderator
    • Edited

    And I don’t pay much attention to that here in Austria 😅

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  • Comment author
    Vlinderke

    Yes, that's right, the UV index was already in the "old" model.
    In the new model, this can be followed more extensively with warnings.
    also for pollen

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  • Comment author
    Marco

    Now I read in the product advertisement:
    Track 12 indoor and outdoor data to improve your everyday life.

    This means you can now connect 12 additional modules, instead of the three + outdoor module + rain sensor + wind sensor (6 modules)?

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  • Comment author
    Sasha

    Hello everyone, thank you all for your feedbacks, allow me to clarify 😊

    The Weather Station (both first and second generation) can have the same maximum number of modules: Main module, 1 outdoor module,1 Rain Gauge, 1 Anemometer and 3 Additional Indoor Modules.

    Just like the previous version, the New Weather Station Original provides precise information about temperature, humidity, air quality, noise, and atmospheric pressure. However, the New Station now goes even further by adding highly accurate data on pollen levels and UV/sunlight exposure, which is valuable information for people who are sensitive or concerned about their daily exposure.
     
    The need for renewal came from our users. Indeed, we conducted a study which showed that, aside from the features already integrated into our previous Weather Station, the data users are now looking for are specifically pollen levels and sunshine indices, which we now fetch from our partner, The Weather Company.
    No household weather station can currently integrate a pollen sensor (they are too large, expensive, etc.). For this reason, we have chosen cloud data that allow us to obtain reliable data within a 10 km radius of the users' homes, with the most personalized data possible.
     
    Have a nice day !

     

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  • Comment author
    Marco
    • Edited

    Thanks for your answer, Sasha.
    You write that the new station provides highly accurate data on pollen levels and UV/sunlight exposure, but at the same time, the data actually comes from external sources, The Weather Company.

    Why would the previous device go to the trouble of hiding data (UV/pollen) from customers in the app?

    "A study has shown that, in addition to the features already integrated into our previous weather station, users are now particularly looking for pollen levels and sunshine indices."

    A simple update to your app or web client would have been enough?

    Selling the same hardware and claiming it can do more?

    Should I throw away my working weather station and buy the "old one with a new coat of paint" to get UV and pollen?

    I'm disappointed!

    I'm sorry, I don't like to complain, but it seems appropriate here.

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